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Author Topic:  Carolina rig- what's your style?  (Read 7299 times)

Offline toad

Carolina rig- what's your style?
« on: May 18, 2014, 01:46:14 PM »
I've been an avid fan of the Carolina rig for years. I find this technique is good for a lot of situations.

My set up is a 7' MH baitcaster with 20#-50# braid main line and 10#-15# fluorocarbon leader. Leader length, weight size and style, hook size and bait type are determined by the current conditions.

Usually, the terminal tackle goes: 1/2oz. lead bullet weight (or egg for rock), glass bead (2 for night or stained water), quality barrel swivel, 2 1/2'-3' leader and a 2/0 ewg hook. That set up is a starting point, but it can change with different applications such as a shorter leader for active fish or smaller weight for more finesse approaches.

How many folks throw a C-rig? What's your typical set up? Anybody have a favorite bait? Depth? Let's hear from the ball and chain fans!

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Offline Nitrofreak

Re: Carolina rig- what's your style?
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2014, 02:13:11 PM »
Set up is pretty much the same as yours , although I don't go much past a foot with the leader , the bass tend to pick up the weight or the beads and I always end up hooking them somewhere in the gut , I shorten my leader for this reason and so that the bait is visibly close to the beads , both leader and main line is braid , 30lb test .

I commend you , not many use this set up and even fewer have a good grasp on how to use it , very nice Toad !!

My baits are rather on the larger side , 11 inch Rage Tail Anacondas , Rage Tail shell crackers , Rage Tail Smokin Roosters , large size craws or creature baits of all brands , my hook size is usually a 4 gamma or Trokar , for me it's go big or go home LOL , I will downsize if I get a lot of strikes , but that's par for the course , places I use this the most is in and around saddled areas .
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Offline fish365

Re: Carolina rig- what's your style?
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2014, 08:20:38 PM »
I throw mine on 15-20 lb floro main line and 10-12 lb mono or co-polymer leader as i like to throw a lot of handpoured baits that float. If the water is stained i will use a bead. Use 20" to 4' leader depending on conditions.
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Re: Carolina rig- what's your style?
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2014, 08:23:14 PM »
I pretty much throw an identical set up as you do Jason with one minor exception and that is the leader material. Seems we have a bit of everything between the three of us. I opt for mono leader material.

I do like the main line to be braid so that I have max feel and I can get a good hook set on long casts. Though I go with the mono for two reasons. One is so that if I get hung up, and i must break off, the mono will break sooner than the braid and I will hopefully be spared from losing my beads and weight. This can be done too with fluorocarbon as well. However reason two is where I feel the mono has an advantage over the fluorocarbon and that is that the mono floats higher than fluoro. Fluorocarbon is dense and tends to sink faster than mono.

I have used long leaders, especially back in the day on Lake Murray in SC when the lake still had it huge hydrilla beds. We would use leaders even as long as 4 to 6 feet in diameter to get the bait high up over the weeds. I can tell you one thing, bites on a leader that long are near impossible to feel, especially considering back then braid wasn't really the in thing.

These days I usually use an 18" leader. I will use a 1/2 oz weight but I often can be found using a 1 oz weight too. I like the bigger weight because i can move faster which allows me to work large areas pretty quickly. I have, at times, even used my c rig as a search tool. This was something i use to do on Santee Cooper, over the endless large flats, after all the grass was eradicated in the late 90s.

Though I must admit, up here in New York and Connecticut, I haven't used the carolina rig as much as I once did when I was fishing the large southern impoundments. However, it will always be one of my favorite ways of fishing. I always have one rod set up with it... just in case. :D

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Offline toad

Re: Carolina rig- what's your style?
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2014, 10:19:09 PM »
Jared- I used mono as a leader for a long time and it did well. Fluoro came into play when I had some left over on a spool and didn't want to throw it away. We have a lot of rocky lakes in SW Virginia and it became apparent that the fluoro seemed to hold up better as far as abrasion was concerned. I think mono would actually be better as a shock absorber, which is important with braid and a stiff rod.

Uh-oh... Did I just talk myself into using mono ? :lmao:

The bouyancy of mono isn't a factor for me because most plastics I use don't float anyway with a hook in them. I can see how mono would be a plus if using floating baits, though. I used to use a high floating fluke-type bait that was made of that elasteaz stuff. Man, that stuff could float a 4/0 hook! (y)

Nitro- I never had much problem with gut hooking using a C-rig for some reason. Maybe, like Jared, I just fish it faster than a lot of anglers. Then again, I probably fish it shallower and in brushier environments than the standard usage, too! ;)

Thanks for everybody's input! I'm thinking about posting a how-to article on Carolina rig fishing and this stuff sort of helps get a good baseline on where folks stand on the technique.

Offline Nitrofreak

Re: Carolina rig- what's your style?
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2014, 07:01:16 AM »
Jared- I used mono as a leader for a long time and it did well. Fluoro came into play when I had some left over on a spool and didn't want to throw it away. We have a lot of rocky lakes in SW Virginia and it became apparent that the fluoro seemed to hold up better as far as abrasion was concerned. I think mono would actually be better as a shock absorber, which is important with braid and a stiff rod.

Uh-oh... Did I just talk myself into using mono ? :lmao:

The bouyancy of mono isn't a factor for me because most plastics I use don't float anyway with a hook in them. I can see how mono would be a plus if using floating baits, though. I used to use a high floating fluke-type bait that was made of that elasteaz stuff. Man, that stuff could float a 4/0 hook! (y)

Nitro- I never had much problem with gut hooking using a C-rig for some reason. Maybe, like Jared, I just fish it faster than a lot of anglers. Then again, I probably fish it shallower and in brushier environments than the standard usage, too! ;)

Thanks for everybody's input! I'm thinking about posting a how-to article on Carolina rig fishing and this stuff sort of helps get a good baseline on where folks stand on the technique.

Could be that I still use brass as the weight , it has been a staple for me over the years that still proves it's worth , maybe a little change is in order huh ?  too dang set in my ways I guess  :lmao:

Offline Fish4FunInFl

Re: Carolina rig- what's your style?
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2014, 08:49:19 AM »
After watching a dvd by Woo Daves and him useing a ' Carolina Keeper ' I liked the idea and have used it quite a bit ( not lately though )


The idea behind the CK is , its one line and you can adjust the length with a pair of plyers. ( with heavy weights you may need to use 2 CK )

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Re: Carolina rig- what's your style?
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2014, 09:04:02 AM »
After watching a dvd by Woo Daves and him useing a ' Carolina Keeper ' I liked the idea and have used it quite a bit ( not lately though )


The idea behind the CK is , its one line and you can adjust the length with a pair of plyers. ( with heavy weights you may need to use 2 CK )

I had seen this before and thought this would be the way to go as an up grade , it does no damage to your line ? it sounds like some sort of pinch weight .

Offline toad

Re: Carolina rig- what's your style?
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2014, 12:30:05 PM »
F4F- I tried the keepers shortly after they hit our shelves. They worked great on soft bottoms but slid a lot around rock. They might have strengthened them up a bit since then, though.

Do you problems with them sliding, Rodney?

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Re: Carolina rig- what's your style?
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2014, 09:02:26 PM »
When i think about it Jason, mono, yes a good shock absorber, but does it really help the bait float higher? I hear it does but I can't honestly say that I know for sure that it does.

Rodney, I like the Carolina keepers. I've used them a lot especially when I fishing lighter weights. They are so fast to set up.

Top Brass makes some nice preset carolina rigs, tie and fly :D www.tacklewarehouse.com/Top_Brass_Carolina_Ready_Rigs/descpage-TBCRR.html?from=castc

Offline toad

Re: Carolina rig- what's your style?
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2014, 10:05:43 PM »
Nitro and Jared, many of the guys in my club (who admit to throwing a C-rig ;)) use the pre-made set ups. They seem to prefer them over the old school way. I've tried them a few times but find I lose sensitivity. Do you think I'm fishing them correctly? I must be missing something if so many folks prefer them.

Also, Jared, you know, I've actually seen illustrations for C-rig how-tos that show baits floating behind the weight. One in particular comes to mind that showed a Zoom Trick Worm floating. I know that many baits will rise on the retrieve, but I've never seen a Trick Worm with anything bigger than a 1/0 float very long. From what I've seen, most plastics will sink just like they would on a wacky rig. K-mart used to sell a bait called Rattlesnake Baits that were very bouyant and would, indeed, float like a butterfly.

What are your thoughts, admiral? Are my observations wrong?

Offline Nitrofreak

Re: Carolina rig- what's your style?
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2014, 06:30:21 AM »
Nitro and Jared, many of the guys in my club (who admit to throwing a C-rig ;)) use the pre-made set ups. They seem to prefer them over the old school way. I've tried them a few times but find I lose sensitivity. Do you think I'm fishing them correctly? I must be missing something if so many folks prefer them.

It's simply a matter of preference Toad , at least in my opinion , everyone has different reasons as to what they use because of how they use it and where they use it , I still use old school stuff as well , instead of using my line to allow the weight to slide on , I use these in rougher terrain and or unknown areas , it simply helps my line last longer in the nasty stuff that I fish .






Offline Fish4FunInFl

Re: Carolina rig- what's your style?
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2014, 08:38:53 AM »
Jaison, at times I do have them slide on me ( depending on cover and weight used.. ) Thats why I use 2 of them at times.

Offline toad

Re: Carolina rig- what's your style?
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2014, 10:18:15 AM »
Nitro and Jared, many of the guys in my club (who admit to throwing a C-rig ;)) use the pre-made set ups. They seem to prefer them over the old school way. I've tried them a few times but find I lose sensitivity. Do you think I'm fishing them correctly? I must be missing something if so many folks prefer them.

It's simply a matter of preference Toad , at least in my opinion , everyone has different reasons as to what they use because of how they use it and where they use it , I still use old school stuff as well , instead of using my line to allow the weight to slide on , I use these in rougher terrain and or unknown areas , it simply helps my line last longer in the nasty stuff that I fish .

I imagine we fish similar nasty stuff, bud. Think I might have to do some more comparison angling with the pre-made vs old school. If it helps the line last longer I'm all for it! Thanks, Nitro. (y)

Offline Nitrofreak

Re: Carolina rig- what's your style?
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2014, 11:03:41 AM »
Nitro and Jared, many of the guys in my club (who admit to throwing a C-rig ;)) use the pre-made set ups. They seem to prefer them over the old school way. I've tried them a few times but find I lose sensitivity. Do you think I'm fishing them correctly? I must be missing something if so many folks prefer them.

It's simply a matter of preference Toad , at least in my opinion , everyone has different reasons as to what they use because of how they use it and where they use it , I still use old school stuff as well , instead of using my line to allow the weight to slide on , I use these in rougher terrain and or unknown areas , it simply helps my line last longer in the nasty stuff that I fish .

I imagine we fish similar nasty stuff, bud. Think I might have to do some more comparison angling with the pre-made vs old school. If it helps the line last longer I'm all for it! Thanks, Nitro. (y)

I would venture to say you are correct , I have yet to fish the rivers down your way , although the lakes I have fished holds some pretty nasty stuff man !!!


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