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Author Topic:  Does color matter when wacky rigging a Senko or other soft stick?  (Read 277 times)

Offline SENKOSAM

I wacky rigged a 5" black stick for the first time in years to see how well it would do on a 1/8 oz ballhead jig. The action was as expected except faster on the way to the bottom and bass soon grabbed it. Like most anglers, I always assumed wacky rigged sticks used only bare hooks, but having caught fish on a mini-stick rigged on a 1/32 oz jighead, I figured 1/8 oz should do well.

Over the years I accumulated over a few hundred stick in different colors: black, laminates, watermelon & flake, pumpkin with seed, etc., but never tried them except black which caught my first stick bass and all bass after that.

Does anyone use soft stick colors other than black? Does color matter?

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Offline Oldschool

Black may be the last color most of today's bass anglers go to with soft plastics except at night and used as a jig trailer. Soft plastic worms including heavy salted stick worms the greens are the most popular choices with green pumpkin and water melon red flake topping the popularity charts. Black with blue highlites topping the jig trailer choices.
The Ned rig or a light weight mushroom jig with a short fat stick worm is very popular the past 2 years that statrted in the Midwest and I know black colors are offered Z-Man TRD or Roboworms.
Tom
PS; Sam, looks like you are the Lone Ranger currently posting.

Offline SENKOSAM

Nice to find someone hanging out here. 

I don't care where I post just as long as I do and someone reads what I have to say. Fishing shows and articles are all advertising and the same old crap dolled out for years. Good to see others points of view and ideas - especially on YouTube and on a few different forums.

BTW I agree with your color selection.(y)
Today I poured a soft stick using clear plastic with chartreuse, gold and black glitter. I took it down to my pond and wacky rigged it with an Octopus hook - something I've never used with sticks. A freak'n perch got hooked and bass tried to slam it! Since the plastic was of a salt water hardness, tomorrow I'll pour some with soft/ sinking plastic. Getting excited to wack the wacky! :lmao:

Offline Oldschool

Didn't mention my preferred colors for soft plastic worms.
I tend to prefer translucent purple, smoke and cinnamon with neon blue vain or high lights because they work better in our clear highly pressured bass lakes. Greens can work at times, usually the lighter lime green tones that represent baby bass or young of the year baitfish.
Blacks work good for me in deep water during the cold water period and very low light or night during the summer.
Tom

Offline SENKOSAM

If you've got nothing better to do, read and consider the following:
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2018, 03:02:38 PM »
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Greens can work at times, usually the lighter lime green tones that represent baby bass or young of the year baitfish.
As you may know from my extensive posting about color not representing anything to a fish, I'm convinced that lure action and size are #1; color serves as contrast for easy visualization and as an irritant. Take the sticks I poured using light and black glitter:


Shape: slim, tapered ends
Action: tip and body wobble made more evident by using soft sinking plastic
Contrast and flash: black, chartreuse and gold glitter; a chartreuse plastic color for a more solid look.

Fish view objects, alive or other, against some background. Light creates the 3 D image fish see with reflection off the objects superior surface and shadow underneath it. The lateral line detects subtle vibrations. These are the basic enhancements lures exhibit.

As a lure maker and tester, I've tested variations of the same design and caught fish so I can't accept that fish even know what they're looking at when it comes to lures no matter how natural or realistic. Confidence may increase when anglers tell themselves that a lure looks like something or other to a fish which compares it to other prey animals. But on the same page anglers become selective as to which jigs, soft sticks or crankbait are better because they know which are better for reasons of design: shape, size and action.

These two soft sticks look exactly the same but differences in plastic softness make them entirely different when it comes to action differences:


The top stick is best used as a T-rigged jerk worm or as a surface lure wacky rig.
The bottom stick is best used as a sinking wacky rigged.

Both demonstrate tip and body wobble when wacky rigged but only the harder plastic stick exhibits a darting body & tail zig-zag action that make bass charge it from cover.

Lure technicals IMO mean everything when it comes to whether fish can be provoked/coerced to strike when semi-active. All the rest are angler-imagined motives why bass strike lures rather than lures being strictly stimuli inputs to a fish's nervous system. As I've suspected for a long time, fish are pretty dang edgy creatures and they have to be to survive! (..unlike my wife who is edgy for the hell of it! :choked-up:)

Offline Oldschool

Regarding contrast one of the most successful multi species lure ever is the original Rapala floating minnow black back with silver sides white belly.
Can't get further apart in the color spectrum then black and white.
The original Rapala is a study in shape, color and suttle action.
GYCB Senko action according to Gary Yamamoto wasn't designed into the lure, it just happened. Gary was trying to make a fatter faster sinking soft platics worm when he made his first Senko using a ball point pen for a mold molel. The suttle wiggle or waggle resulted from the Senko shape, heavy salt content and soft plastic to allow the faster sink rate and a new class of lure was borne.
Until you can ask a bass what it see's and why it reacts to artifical lures, we can only guess. When you consider every color has shades the human can't detect without the light aides it's a stretch to assume what bass see underwater. White is a simple color.... There are hundreds of shade and hues of white alone that look alike until viewed under different light source.
Tom

Offline SENKOSAM

OldSchool, Your an angler after my own heart!  (y)

All I know is is that I caught 69 fish today: bass, sunfish, crappie and a few pickerel on different shaped lures, using different presentations and at different depths (3-9'). Black/pearl shad soft plastics worked along with chartreuse and glitter. Wacky rigged mini-sticks and mini-swimbaits all did great as did 4" carrot sticks rigged Texas and wacky in watermelon and flake.

Various lure actions/ colors/ and various presentations worked from 11am - 6:00pm

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Until you can ask a bass what it see's and why it reacts to artifical lures, we can only guess.
And that's the beauty of choosing the right lures - we never need to ask why, but what fish react to and never have to worry that we didn't match what they eat or what looks natural (whatever that is).
All of these worked today:






This mini-stick was almost clear with a few flakes added:


Works for me!

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Re: Does color matter when wacky rigging a Senko or other soft stick?
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2018, 07:00:54 AM »
I would like to add that I have been using a texas rigged sinko this year with great success.  I favor the watermelon red.  That along with a trick worm rigged wacky style have produced best for me.  Since I am still perfecting my use of these styles of fishing I can't say too much about the colors as I stay with the colors that produce for me. I'm glad to see new members posting.  keep up the good work.
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Re: Does color matter when wacky rigging a Senko or other soft stick?
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2018, 09:17:17 AM »
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I can't say too much about the colors as I stay with the colors that produce for me.
That's the point many miss: if they work when using a certain lure, why change?

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Re: Does color matter when wacky rigging a Senko or other soft stick?
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2018, 10:26:36 AM »
EXACTLY!!!!!!! This is why I went back what  I always used and worked. The Whooper plopper is a Jitterbug in another dress!
Keepin It Simple and Reasonable

Offline Adam Mihara

Re: Does color matter when wacky rigging a Senko or other soft stick?
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2018, 04:53:24 PM »
Buoyancy plays a big role in stick worm action when you add a jighead. The more buoyant the worm the more it fights against the weight of the jig. Softer, denser worms tend to fold. 

I don't really care for black senkos anymore. I'm they work fine but not a go-to presentation for me. I will reach for a baby bass or watermelon red color 9/10 times. 

I have been experimenting with threading spinnerbait/jig skirt through them with mixed results. I use a fly tying bobbin threader and some saliva to pull the strands through the bait. 

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