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Author Topic:  The lures you usually use determines your style of fishing  (Read 3073 times)

Offline SENKOSAM

About four years ago I started using light tackle and lures to fish for more than just bass. Light lures require a much slower retrieve than say a spinnerbait or crankbait. What's more, are the areas I can fish more effectively with light jig heads vs. the other two mentioned. I'd never say they are ineffective as search lures, but sb and cb do have their limitations especially in weeds. So for me, the type and size of lures I typically use determine my presentation for most waters.

Different waters that have different bottoms and weed amounts could dictate, more or less, the  choice of lures - many that could catch fish only on faster retrieves. Many anglers fishing those waters wouldn't think twice fishing light lures or using lures that require slower presentations. What's the point? Spinnerbaits fit the bill for weed lines adjacent to deep water; ditto for crankbaits retrieved in the right circumstance. Heavy jigs get down fast to fish in 10' or more (though once on bottom are usually retrieved slowly).

What style of fishing do you prefer as dictated by your lure choices? There is no right or wrong answer unless your're not catching fish. Can you switch lure types and presentations at the drop of a hat? Better yet, do you recognize when you should?

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Re: The lures you usually use determines your style of fishing
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2017, 09:45:26 PM »
If I get to the lake early in the morning except in the winter I start with spinner baits, buzz baits, and crank baits.  If they work then game on, I'll fish 'till I can't stand it with those baits.

However, if I get a late start and especially if there is not much wind, I will start with plastics and jigs.  I always have some light stuff tied on if I have to use it but I prefer power fishing because it fits my obsessive compulsive hyper active life better than finesse fishing.
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Re: The lures you usually use determines your style of fishing
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2017, 10:35:47 AM »
I only have soft plastics in my box anymore, (EXCEPT FOR A FEW JITTERBUGS) Worms, Senko and Paddletails are my favorite baits I either Mojo rig, wacky rig, trig , weightless t rig them or stick em on a jig head. Depends on where and how deep and what the cover is that I am fishing
I chose to do this because worms are my biased favorite, it is the only way to slow down my ever going head, and it is how I get my peace of mind It is where I get to fish, slowly, investigate a whole area , even when it means working hard for a singular fish
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Re: The lures you usually use determines your style of fishing
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2017, 04:06:55 PM »
I still have problems deciding when to change, I am primarily a jig angler, skirted or not, it covers an extremely wide range of scenarios, water columns, speed, bait sizes, I think we all have our "favorite way" to catch fish, that's for sure, I'd much rather drag a mop jig across the bottom any day but, that doesn't mean you should limit yourself, versatility is most profound.

When I visit different bodies of water I tend to do a lot of junk fishing to establish some sort of pattern, whatever that pattern may be determines what my favorite presentation is for that particular part of the lake, I really don't have a single presentation that I will constantly pick up first, I usually get the reports from local marinas a day or two before and try and cover weather and water conditions, from then on it's sonar, sonar, sonar until I figure out a starting place and a depth.

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Offline SENKOSAM

Re: The lures you usually use determines your style of fishing
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2017, 07:31:55 PM »
I think what all of you said quite relevant, but I'd like to add one thing: You've fished a water for over five years, know what works and when and what doesn't. After awhile we think in terms of percentages : having used various lures and found them wanting, we go to higher percentage lures as a rule on certain waters. Unless someone comes along and proves different, we adjust our style of fishing to be able to cover water the best way possible with lures we trust because of the fish they've consistently catch year to year.

I fished a lake today that is not known for quality fish or a decent bass population. Fish hit smaller lures retrieved slower.  It is a heavily fished county park lake which may be the reason.

Yesterday I fished a lake for the first time and the same thing exists except bass responded to more lure types and I'll bet different presentations and rigs.  This lake is off limits to the general public (US gov. property and regs) and the fish seem prone to just about everything.

The second lake dictates more freedom to chose; the first water not so much. 

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Re: The lures you usually use determines your style of fishing
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2017, 09:28:48 PM »
You've fished a water for over five years, know what works and when and what doesn't

Sure!

But that still doesn't mean that you should put aside the challenge to try something new, it could reward you.

The tough part of that equation is that you already know what works and if what your attempting is not working in a relitivly short time it's tough not going back and picking up your go to presentation LOL !!


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Re: The lures you usually use determines your style of fishing
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2017, 01:21:18 AM »
Good thread!!  If we realize it or not, our own styles tend to dictate the first 2 hours of fishing. 
That's why I like having someone different in the back of the boat, or fishing in someone else's boat from time to time.  
Will topwater always be the first rod I grab at sunrise? 
Probably,  but maybe it shouldn't be.

Last summer I took a fellow angler to my "home" waters. Perfect morning conditions. ..no wind, overcast and no boat traffic. I was heading to a typical starting point when he asked to start deep. Very deep. With an uncontrolled eye roll, I turned to a hole with a flat nearby,  planning to give deep water about 15 minutes then heading to the flat.
Let's just say he made a good call. He started with a jig and I started with a deep crankbait,  and they were on fire!
We would have caught fish my way too, but not the quality. 
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Re: The lures you usually use determines your style of fishing
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2017, 05:22:09 AM »
Where I have fished most often the past few years this hasn't been the case for me unless I say not having a style is my style.  I have fished a few spots from shore mostly and most of the time I bring 5 to 10 rods with me.  Time of year and day along with weather conditions dictate what species I'm after and what I'm using to get them.  I prefer to catch fish on topwater, but that doesn't work so great on walleye which will be the first thing I'm after this morning.  Our gamefish season here in MN is a week old now and I've hardly thrown or caught a fish on a Texas rigged craw tube.  The past few years that combo has been a mainstay and the top producer for me. 

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Re: The lures you usually use determines your style of fishing
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2017, 06:29:37 AM »
That's why I like having someone different in the back of the boat, or fishing in someone else's boat from time to time.  
I agree with this 100%. Fishing with other people can remove an angler from a rut and open their eyes to see things from a different point of view.

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Re: The lures you usually use determines your style of fishing
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2017, 06:50:58 AM »
I am more than positive that many anglers have a style of fishing. I am pretty sure I do as well. However, our end goal should actually be to have no style, or better yet, to have every style.

Every minute of every day, on the water, the fish and the conditions should dictate our style and we should adjust accordingly.

Now with that said, that can be very very hard.

Yes, if we fish a certain body of water on a regular basis, we can settle into a style that we are confident of and will work. It is when we leave the comfort of our home waters and fish strange bodies of our water that we soon learn that our style needs to change. This is where the professional anglers we all know and love really shine. They all can fish every style, every technique, every bait equally as well as the rest. I once got laughed at by Aaron Martens for asking what was his Go To presentation. He said "Dude you know better than to ask that." and went on to explain how he and the other pros on the Elite trail have to be good at them all.

Though being weekend anglers or casual anglers, there is nothing wrong with us having a style. There is nothing wrong with us fishing what we enjoy most and trying to make that style of fishing work on any given day. I do it. I do it too often. However, my end goal is to be equally as comfortable fishing all styles.

Offline Bud Kennedy

Re: The lures you usually use determines your style of fishing
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2017, 08:44:58 AM »
Interesting conversation.  I guess I too have a style but usually considered it as a preference but the word "Style" works as well.  I tend to like moving baits like spinners,cranks, chatter, swim jigs.  So, I guess they determine my style.  You can bet however that when fishing with other folks I pay attention to what they are catching them on and will be ready to change up in a flash.

Offline iamski

Re: The lures you usually use determines your style of fishing
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2017, 08:45:22 AM »
I'll use either a top water bait or spinning bait to start the dawn off day off.  The switch to plastics or different lures.
At evening fishing its a jitter bug or mid night special by Strike King  blk spinner bait. Yes and then might go to plastics.
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Offline SENKOSAM

Re: The lures you usually use determines your style of fishing
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2017, 06:39:38 AM »
Preferences of lures and presentations, is more specific and applies especially to what one uses and when.  It would be great if one structure type produced fish using different lure types, but on average I haven't found it to work that way.

One day I found a large school of different species that included mostly bass. For ha ha's I used different lures to see how each would measure up on very active fish. Some did worse than the others and the ones that did catch bass, most I wouldn't use again having a preference for a few that seem to have a higher probability of working. The problem with probability is that it's not always dependable and actually goes down for a body of water - sometimes yearly.

Where are the fish that were frequenting on or near a hump last year in mid summer or did they stop going after the bait I usually use?  How come my crankbait stopped catching fish on a particular drop or weed line ? Were the fish even present ?

Rut is a good word to describe not being able to catch fish on lures and presentations that don't work where we expect them to and yet stick with them in the face of change. Granted, there will always be a jig & trailer bite, a plastic worm bite, a grub bite -  three of the top producing lures - and in all probability they will still catch fish where we expect them to. But the larger the water, the more variation in fish location from year to year. Not using deep diving crankbaits in a deep midlake channel, but sticking with jigs shallow may not be as productive even though we like catching fish on them in shallow water.  (I suck in water deeper than 8' unless I see my partner doing well, in which case he either loans me the same lure or goes for a swim. :D)

The larger the water and less fishing pressure allows a far greater variety of lures and presentations, but so are the variety of potential fish locations. That's the rub when it comes to preferences - structure and lure types used for it. It might not be the lures used, but where they are used that really really suck for the simple reason that fish just aren't present!

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Re: The lures you usually use determines your style of fishing
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2017, 09:54:02 AM »
At this point in life, I just don't want to haul a boat any longer.  I have a small cabin on a 290 acre lake so that's what I fish.  How I fish depends on time of year and conditions.

This time of year I throw a lot of swimbaits.  Nice for bass and I occasionally catch a walleye. 

Once the fish are off the beds, I go a little deeper on the drop-offs with more soft plastics.  I like the bottom with neko Damiki Hydra.  That's my favorite bait of all time.  I also throw tubes, a few sticks and go wacky.  Flick shake is very productive as we head into warmer weather.  I also introduce my dropshot around this time.

I have pretty much given up on hard baits, but with my love of the bottom, I am going to introduce jigs back into the lineup this year. 

Later in the year, I love topwater when the fish are trying to fatten up for fall and winter. 



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Re: The lures you usually use determines your style of fishing
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2017, 10:10:59 AM »
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when the fish are trying to fatten up for fall and winter.
I've always wondered about that oft used phrase. Fish aren't like bears that fatten up their fat layer and the bass I've caught through the ice are no fatter than those I catch in early spring (except egg loaded females). Do bass eat more in fall to store more calories or do they do so just because changing weather patterns and water temperatures make all species more active, including bait fish?

But to add to the theme of the original post:
Fishing success most of the time is a balance between what we rule out as what we consider possible. This applies to any of the variables that make up the combination of factors we should attune ourselves to by trial and error such as location/ lure/ and presentation. To ignore this most times results in dead end fishing due to restricting ourselves to what doesn't work or where, and that includes using lure and presentation preferences we want to believe are universal between waters or even day to day/ year to year.
In my case I'm just incredibly lazy ! :embarassed:

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