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Author Topic:  What does it take for you to try something new when it comes to lures?  (Read 216 times)

Offline SENKOSAM

I suppose it depends on many factors - the 1st one being experience level which depends on seeing different lures catching bass.

My versatility didn't increase dramatically until I joined a bass club and then rec fished with different members. Until then my choices were few: plastic worms or grubs. Spinnerbaits, skirted jigs, Spooks, crankbaits, etc., I only saw catch fish on different TV shows or read about in magazine articles. But  when I observed fishing partners catching fish on lures I had never used, all I can say is, seeing is believing !

But even though I saw a lure catch fish, didn't mean I knew how or where it was used. Most lures have limitations within their category and where they can be used best. Topwater lure uses are obvious - on surface or near surface only. So if I see someone get a bass on a PopR, I have to take into consideration where it caught bass: depth range, cover proximity or none, time of day, which months.  So in a sense it's not just simply seeing someone catching fish on a lure for the first time, but the other factors that fine tune its usage.

The first time I saw my tournament partner catch many small bass on a jig & pig 20 years ago, I had no idea what he was casting to since he shut off the rear sonar unit and made long casts into open water - or so it seemed. He was a very competitive secretive type and only after the tournament did I learn from a friend that he was casting to a shallow rocky hump surrounded by 15' of water. Again, seeing someone catch bass on a lure doesn't mean one knows the depth range and structure it is effective. Of course, I vowed to catch fish on that lure in a local bass lake even though I had a hard time believing a bass would strike something so dang unnatural looking! First time out - seven bass ins water from 4-12' near a rocky point; after that, I only used the j&p in similar waters not realizing the greater uses and trailers possible.

I suppose trying lures in spring is a good way to see if bass at least strike them at all, but I found that doing so was not a good test of them even if bass were caught because spring prespawn bass hit anything most of the time. The hard part is to continue fishing them in July and Aug. when bass scatter and go deep and hit better different times of day. But even finding those times and places on one water doesn't guarantee they'll do well on another different water containing different structure and depth. I found that out using five different lures in a very large, rocky bottom lake during a tournament where the maximum depth was over 40' and had few shallow weed beds. Didn't get a bite! (Guess I should have practiced fished that lake....)

So when you ask someone what they caught fish on the previous day, they may well be telling you the truth (or not), but as many pros have been quoted after a tournament : bass either left the area or needed a totally different lure to catch them. (This was before pre-fishing a water was illegal.)
Granted, I've posted many pictures of lures on this and other forums that I caught hundreds of fish on - 6 species no less!, but the waters I fish and the way I fish those lures may not be good for everyone in the waters they fish. Presentation is half the battle - location the other half, but only if the lure action, size and vibration is within a range bass will bite in that water, various times of day or in within certain months.

Is it worth it finding new lures to catch fish? Could be, but many of the classics still work to this day. (something I have to convince myself to take out of storage and dust off every new year and then actually use them.)

Frank

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Offline Coldbasser

Frank I very much enjoy reading your posts as thought & experience go into your posts.
Hope all is well
Cheers
Fred

Offline iamski

It takes me first of all is it something I feel or will feel confident using. Then I purchase it and give it an honest try to use.
Everyone has to believe in something. I believe I'll go Fishin.

Offline BassPunditBlog

I usually take a wait and see approach until a lure has proven itself.  I'm definitely not an early adopter usually.  

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A lot of times for me Mr. Sam it took a lot of con jobs and sekling, I am at fault for being so gullible. I remember you from NY Bass and BassResource, I like your take on fishing, I have gone the other way in my life, the older I got I went to my 2 most successful and fun to use baits the Worm and the Soft Plastic Stik
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Trying out new lures is a choice we all make at one time or another.  I have found that I like to experiment and try different combinations. Mix it up and sometimes I make the right choice or combo to score on the bass. Sinkosam in your post you are very knowledgeable and write with authority on your material.  It is a welcome site and pleasure to read.  Continue with the good work.
Put a rod in my hand and a boat under my feet and watch me catch bass.

Offline SENKOSAM

Thanks so much guys for the kudos! (Would have replied sooner but forgot to check instant reply notification in advanced settings)

First off, I don't ever want to come across as preaching ideas; I discuss ideas and offer a different point of view for anyone interested to consider based on discoveries that proved to bare some truth regarding fishing for any species. When I say any species, I mean bass, trout, panfish, some salt water species, pickerel and walleye that have been caught with using lures supposedly not meant for them.

What I've found and continue to find are lures that are different in some way than the usual selection sold. That in itself forces me to consider using new designs, modifications and sometimes bizarre looking lures pretty much forever. At present, soft plastics are my media of lure design and the easiest to make and then duplicate once proven on different outings and waters.

Photo logs of each outing per each water fished, are recorded proof that something worked or worked with a different presentation. When I can catch five species in one day on one lure, that tells me that those fish aren't picky nor capable of being picky when the right lure is used the right way, but only if the strike energy level is above zero. The higher it is, the easier it is to provoke a fish - any fish to strike. That level must be high for a fish to strike a surface lure or to attack a moderately fast moving spinnerbait. But the nice thing about using lures that work when the level is low (suspending fish just hanging out for example), are the sheer variety of lures that catch more fish more times.

Our challenge is finding those lures and many of you already have that have these things in common:
1. can be worked slow whether horizontally or jigged
2. have finesse / subtle action
3. have profiles fish are apt to attack (Chatterbait isn't one of them) when given enough time for fish to inspect, become irritated by and then strike. (Hunger as a reason IMO is a human reason fish strike lures. My theory is strictly sense oriented (vision, lateral line) and stimulus provoking.

It's fine to use only a few lures to catch fish one has confidence in and with certain presentations. But as with anything, variety is the spice of fishing - at least in my book, and if I can catch fish on  a dozen different lure designs on one outing, that's what I'll strive to do.  I might find a crankbait bite, jig bite and mini-soft plastic bite all on the same lake at different times. If successful, it means the lures were right for the strike energy level fish possessed at that moment. It's like winning the lottery when that happens! The more lures I have confidence in after they've proven themselves, the less reason not to change just for the H of it!

Here are ideas that blew me away the first time I tried them:
grub bodies attached using a candle flame and hand poured mini-sticks worked wacky style and the usual jighead at one end.



...and all based on an accidental discovery of a mini-stick wacky rigged on a 1/32 oz jig:


This example demonstrates how one idea led to many others and an increase in variety involving shape, thickness, length, color and rigs that equated to a universal species appeal and aggression.

If there's any reason to try new lures or retry old ones, the above is reason enough!

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