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Author Topic:  Big baits for any size bass  (Read 565 times)

Offline SENKOSAM

Big baits for any size bass
« on: January 09, 2018, 09:21:27 PM »
A few years ago there was a post on a bass forum that showed large bass caught at night using large 9" swimbaits. The reservoir they were fishing doesn't allow even electric motors, so I'm sure the lures weren't trolled. The bass ranged from 4-6 lbs - not bad for late July after midnight. But it got me thinking... :thinking:

Seeing as how smaller baits would not have been hit at night by large bass, for whatever reason, could the size of the lure plus its big action have contributed to large bass strikes? When you consider the large lures trolled on surface for saltwater fish in the 100-200 lb range, it makes sense - big lure/ big fish. When I fished the reservoir during the day, we caught bass from 3-6 lbs using deep-dive 6" crankbaits. The strikes were hard and the fish easily hooked - some swallowed lures barely peeking out from their mouths.

The other side to using larger baits are using lures that are visually more striking or make a lot of noise vs soft plastics with their quiet finesse action. Roland Martin won a tournament using a spinnerbait that he attached a large silver willow-leaf blade to back in the 80's. I did the same after reading it in Bass Master Magazine and caught bass the first outing I tried it. Zara Spooks and buzzbaits make a lot of noise and attract the attention of bass from a distance greater than that of quiet lures. Cast to the same spot a few times and be prepared for a pissed of bass to strike.

Small bass may pass up hitting a larger more noisy or flashy lure, but large bass may be sensing a territorial issue causing a reaction strike that's more immediate than say for a Ned or Carolina rig. Seeing as how much larger real prey are that larger bass feed on, it makes sense they would respond to bigger lure characteristics only because - they can and they know it !

This three lb. six oz. bass and four more like it were caught on the 5.5" white hand-pour soft swimbait. If I used the smaller size swimbait, it's possible I would still have caught the bass but maybe not. These fish slammed that lure like no tomorrow which makes me think I could have gone to an even larger lure.



There will always be those days where smaller an less obvious lure worked slowly catch a majority of fish.
But there will also be days when conditions are prime for bigger bass primed and ready to hit larger, noisy or bright flashy lures....something I'll definitely try in the coming year.


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Offline Jigfishn10

Re: Big baits for any size bass
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2018, 01:30:39 PM »
I subscribed to the big bait, big bass theory and it did work, but being an angler from the northeast, those catches were few and far between. Those catches were in spring and fall and not a lot of numbers...go figure. I felt like I wasted a season.

Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed catching those big fish, I mean, who wouldn't? But when you're time is tied up between work, little league baseball and life's commitments, I'd just assume go fishing with what I know will catch numbers of fish instead of trophy fish.

Senko, I know you have more time than I do so I wish you all the luck in the world if you do try this. One of the things I really want to try and I will do it someday is stitch for bass with big, like 9" big worms. That is on my bucket list.

For now, I have about 2-3 years left in me with my son's baseball. I'm sure by then he won't want dad to throw the ball around with anymore. Which is fine, I've been blessed to have made it for 13 years and counting.

Offline SENKOSAM

Re: Big baits for any size bass
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2018, 09:38:38 PM »
I know what you mean casting for hours and not getting strikes using certain baits. But one thing I'm fairly certain of is this: certain lakes, especially those 30' or deeper and connecting wetlands with winding channels and weed pockets, generally have fish that at times are prone to biting large lures, but only if those waters are known to contain large bass. 

A local county park lake and another I fish, don't have decent size bass due to excessive harvest in the past without DEC enforcement. Smaller lures are key. In another lake that has a depth of 50' near the dam, coves and a large wetland, holds nice bass and panfish. That's the lake I'll test the theory even further by casting swimbaits larger than in the picture and jigs with large trailers ( got me a 7 lb 6 oz bass in shallow rocky bottom water).

As I said, the right time and place are essential for any lure to work and if the bite is off for the large stuff, I'll go back to using the smaller lures and then try again later. Here are a few I'll try in a larger size:
7" hand poured swimbaits
Spinnerbaits with large willow leaf blades and longer skirts
Zara Spook (haven't cast that in years)
5" Rapalas
3/4 oz jigs with large trailers (faster drops = larger baits in my book)
Weedless spoons with long worm trailers (the snake-action is unbelievable!)
larger cone tail grubs rigged on 1/16 oz ball head jigs with 1/0 hook (usually I use 2" for all species)
longer crankbaits with deep dive bills (have worked for bass in deep water reservoirs I've fished)

Reports to follow.




Offline Jigfishn10

Re: Big baits for any size bass
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2018, 10:53:32 AM »
Nice! Would love to hear how you do.

On the spinnerbait, try a swim grub with a paddle tail.

Good luck.

Offline SENKOSAM

Re: Big baits for any size bass
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2018, 12:19:49 PM »
Quote
 try a swim grub with a paddle tail
I've seen that used with a skirted jig. May as well try both,
Thanks!

I think that after having caught so many fish, on so many different lures, including nice bass, the only challenge left for me is to continue to discover magic lure designs and combinations that can be used almost any place and time. 

So far, so good when it comes to pan fish and small bass - even in cold 39 degree water. Now it's time to move up in size - lures and fish.

Offline Oldschool

Re: Big baits for any size bass
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2018, 12:00:44 PM »
The big bait big fish theory works only if you dedicate yourself to targeting the smallest % of the bass population, big bass or very aggressive small bass. I catch very few bass under 4 lbs on big swimbaits.
Jigs are considered by almost all bass anglers as a big bass lure, jigs are small and usually less then 3" + whatever trailer length is added.
Bass are like any other animal that can't determine it's own size verses the prey size from a distance until they either strike it or get very close and turn away from experience.
When you use big lures you will see bass rush it then turn away.
Tom

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