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Author Topic: [National] Are Paper Lake Maps Obsolete? I Think Not  (Read 2008 times)

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[National] Are Paper Lake Maps Obsolete? I Think Not
« on: June 07, 2017, 09:52:36 AM »
Recently I was responding to a Facebook post about paper maps. It was a comment by another angler stating he doubted that today's anglers would even know how to read a paper map. While this may be true, I think it is important that every angler know how to read a paper map, even these days with modern electronics capable of showing every blade of grass on the lakes bottom.

Paper maps is still a vital part of my angling success. I am not alone with this practice. Many pros still use paper maps today, as well.

I like the fact that I can open up the map and see the entire lake all at once. It really aides me in visualizing what I am dealing with, especially with unfamiliar bodies of water.

I think for pre-fishing, a paper map is a very important tool. Using the paper map in conjunction with Google Earth and your sonar's mapping system is the perfect trifecta.

I would love to hear from  everyone else about this topic.

Do you use papermaps? How? When?

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Re: Are Paper Lake Maps Obsolete? I Think Not
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2017, 10:22:04 AM »
I think I have lake maps for every lake around me.  I use them to locate possible hot spots =.  They are just another tool I use to help me locate fish and eliminate water that I don't feel worth fishing.  I have located so many places on every lake I fish that I have to make several trips to try and fish them all. Maps are an invaluable tool in my boat.  
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Offline Bud Kennedy

Re: Are Paper Lake Maps Obsolete? I Think Not
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2017, 11:31:45 AM »
Paper maps are absolutely still relevant even in today's digital world.  I use the maps to plan my outings and use that information when on the water using my electronics.  I would love to get a map of the Waccamaw river system for the purpose of identifying all the creeks and streams that enter the river.  If anyone know where to get one let me know.

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Re: Are Paper Lake Maps Obsolete? I Think Not
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2017, 06:34:22 PM »
I have map books for regions of the state's I fish. Northern Indiana Southern Michigan and Ohio. The nice part about paper is the ability to write notes. Some lakes are nearly blank while other pages look like a coloring book! 
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Re: Are Paper Lake Maps Obsolete? I Think Not
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2017, 09:11:41 PM »
Paper maps are not dead, however, in my area they have not been updated, I think that's why they are becoming a little more obsolete, while the electronic age has come a long way these maps get updated on a more consistent level.

I will always try to find a paper map first before heading to a new body of water, I use these to make notes in areas that I otherwise can not do with my electronics, sure I can drop a waypoint but ya can't note specifics about an area, I believe it's important to utilize every available source we can to enhance our time on the water.
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Offline Oldschool

Re: Are Paper Lake Maps Obsolete? I Think Not
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2017, 12:26:52 AM »
Both paper and digital maps are a snap shot of the time they where made, every lake evolves and changes over time in some structural areas.

Bass anglers also alter the the structure by moving cover and sometime adding structural elements to the lake.

I have aerial photos of man made lakes before and during their construction, paper topo elevation maps before and after construction and 1' evelation  Navionics maps of the lakes I fish, plus I am always surveying the structure I fish.

Paper maps allow you to mark up the maps adding notes and any added elements you have discovered....extremely valuable so save them!

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Offline rivermandave

Re: Are Paper Lake Maps Obsolete? I Think Not
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2017, 07:14:00 PM »
Paper maps are absolutely still relevant even in today's digital world.  I use the maps to plan my outings and use that information when on the water using my electronics.  I would love to get a map of the Waccamaw river system for the purpose of identifying all the creeks and streams that enter the river.  If anyone know where to get one let me know.
Pages 54-59 of this PDF

Report # 7 - Waccamaw River Basin

I'll add more....

On each of the below pages, look for the "DRG (GeoTIFF) Download" link

https://www.topoquest.com/map-detail.php?usgs_cell_id=47799

https://www.topoquest.com/map-detail.php?usgs_cell_id=5615

https://www.topoquest.com/map-detail.php?usgs_cell_id=5975

https://www.topoquest.com/map-detail.php?usgs_cell_id=9923

https://www.topoquest.com/map-detail.php?usgs_cell_id=32177

https://www.topoquest.com/map-detail.php?usgs_cell_id=19114

https://www.topoquest.com/map-detail.php?usgs_cell_id=26515

Offline iamski

Re: Are Paper Lake Maps Obsolete? I Think Not
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2017, 08:12:17 PM »
No their not dead. I even take them on my tournaments sometimes. I also print my maps on photo paper. Last longer too. Then slide them in a plastic sleeve to keep dry. Mainly to know where channels are. I also take photos of the waters I fish. Spring and fall to note changes. One important thing we sometimes forget is water levels.
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Offline rivermandave

Re: Are Paper Lake Maps Obsolete? I Think Not
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2017, 08:57:46 PM »
There's hundreds if not thousands of small lakes across the country that don't have commercial depth maps.

More and more states though, and even the USGS etc... are making raw data available to the consumer.

All you need is the directions to make maps.

You can even buy software and equipment to do your own, though it's pricey.

Even if data isn't available, you can still take a screen shot of a lake, print it, then use it to make notes on etc

Offline D'Chil

Re: MOVED: Are Paper Lake Maps Obsolete? I Think Not
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2017, 07:12:20 PM »
Maybe I'm on my own here. But...as a guy who has had both paper maps and a "digital" guy....I think paper maps are a thing of the past.  

My reasoning is that they don't show everything. They are only as good as the time they were prepared, which is some cases is a decade or two old.  A LOT happens in that time to our waters. 

With todays resources such as navionics web app, mobile app, different chip maps for your fish finder, and even the ability to make your own maps with your unit.....with paper maps you are looking at old data.  In todays world, a public hot spot doesn't get you in the money anymore. Its all about finding "hidden" spots on the lake that paper maps don't show you....for that matter, many digital maps don't show you either. 

Just yesterday I was on the 4th best lake in America (according to Bassmaster.com) and I stumbled across an old rail bed.  In 18 feet of water this rail bed was elevated about 12 feet....meaning I was in 6 feed of water when I crossed it.  It is not on any map, digital or paper. 

That said, there are things on each map that are not on the other to include Navionics, Lakemaster, and Paper.   There is not best of both worlds, just takes time on the water. 
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Re: Are Paper Lake Maps Obsolete? I Think Not
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2017, 10:36:56 PM »
I agree with you D that the paper maps cannot show the detail of todays digital and of our own charting but... where a paper map is still a valid tool is when we are prefishing bodies of water we are not familiar with. You can open up the map, get a very good idea of the layout of the lake, see where the channels are, the deeper water, the flats etc... at a quick glance.. This is much faster than scrolling through our maps on our gps units.  After we get a good idea of what sections of the lakes we like the looks of, then consulting our GPS and viewing the maps we have loaded on it will give us all the finer details.

I think paper alone is not a good idea but I definitely believe  paper + digital is the best way to research new bodies of water.

Offline rivermandave

Re: MOVED: Are Paper Lake Maps Obsolete? I Think Not
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2017, 01:07:26 PM »
My reasoning is that they don't show everything. They are only as good as the time they were prepared, which is some cases is a decade or two old.  A LOT happens in that time to our waters.

Just yesterday I was on the 4th best lake in America (according to Bassmaster.com) and I stumbled across an old rail bed.  In 18 feet of water this rail bed was elevated about 12 feet....meaning I was in 6 feed of water when I crossed it.  It is not on any map, digital or paper.

That said, there are things on each map that are not on the other to include Navionics, Lakemaster, and Paper.   There is not best of both worlds, just takes time on the water.
@D'Chil

I hate to say it my fellow Fishpedian   ...but you are wrong.

I invite you to download these 3 USGS maps (Merry Oaks NC). To cover ALL of the lake you can also get the Farrington and New Hill maps.

1969 map with 1981 reservoir overlay(TIF file / pic about 10 mb) (nice combo of the 2 further below)

https://www.topoquest.com/map-detail.php?usgs_cell_id=28887

1981 reservoir (PDF 20-30 mb)

https://store.usgs.gov/product/282565

1969 (pre-reservoir) (PDF 20-30 mb)

https://store.usgs.gov/product/282796

I discovered the USGS / reservoir connection well over 10 years ago, when I did research for a person on a now-defunct forum, who ironically had the same "problem" that you have.

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