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Author Topic: [Pouring Plastics] Anyone pour plastics baits ?  (Read 1016 times)

Offline SENKOSAM

[Pouring Plastics] Anyone pour plastics baits ?
« on: April 25, 2017, 10:03:05 PM »
I've been pouring many of my own for over 10 years. The first time I caught bass on them convinced never to buy tackle store plastics unless the sale was too good to pass up or the design too complicated.

Fish of all species bit plastics and more so than many other lure types much of the year. Granted, it's fun to be on a spinnerbait or jig bite, but give me more bites per 100 casts any day! The versatility of plastic lures is endless and don't always depend on skill to catch fish with (my grandkids proved that in my pond). I control the variables associated with plastics:
color, size, shape, action, softness or firm, overall design, function/ presentation factors.

Set up is not as expensive as many might think.  A jug of plastisol, a microwave, pyrex cup, a few dye colors and heat resistant glitter and you're good to go. Molds come in so many designs it's not funny though many lures I make don't require a mold. And modifying baits using a candle and soldering iron, the range of lure choices is greater still.

It's a hobby that keeps on giving when I can't be on the water and as important as fishing.



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Re: Anyone pour plastics baits ?
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2017, 08:04:06 AM »
You bet I do.  The first ones that I made were red 6" worms.  We lived in a duplex and I made them on the kitchen stove.  I remember because I caught a 7# bass in my first tournament on one of them.  That got me started now I have basically gone hog wild.  I have several open pour and injection aluminum molds as well as a box of open pour molds that I have made from Bondo fiberglass resin.  I haven't had good success with Pyrex so I switched to Nor Por silicone cups a few years ago.

I make something nearly every day be it plastic, jigs, A rigs, etc.  I can't use up my supply in the rest of my life and probably not in a second one it that were possible.

I struggled with a bait called a Slab Buster for most of one winter.  I had to drive 100 miles each way to order them.  It took 4-6 months to get them made and I had to drive back to pick them up.  That was 400 miles for a few crappie baits but no one handled them around here.

I wound up getting an aluminum rod the size of the bait and making an aluminum bait.  Then I put it into a brass tube and poured lead into it.  I had a reverse of the bait as a lead insert.  I tried all kinds of ways to pour it and none of them worked.  So I took some cattle catheter injectors and fashioned some plastisol injectors.  I had to add compression fittings to get good injections but it finally worked.







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Re: Anyone pour plastics baits ?
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2017, 05:39:04 AM »
That is one of my best fish catching designs !!!

I fished yesterday and caught over 100 fish / four species including crappie and perch in what I call the bullet or cone tail.

At first I wanted to experiment with a grub in a slim design rigged on a 1/32 oz ball head jig under a float. Even small sunfish dragged that float down like no tomorrow. After catching two dozen fish, I figured - why not go to a 1/24 oz jig head and a cone tail grub. Dang if that didn't get hit by another two dozen fish ! The cone tail has a great waddle /quiver all fish species grab - even on the second cast if missed the first time!

Fish aggression seems geared to smaller and thinner at times, but when the time is right, thicker and larger.

Most important - I have an injection mold that produces a grub called Mo Magic. I'm not happy with the ratio of tail to body length, but the grub does catch fish. Two days ago I decided to cut half the body and use the front half and fuse it to a Senko type cone tail using a candle flame.  Before that I would have to pour an entire worm to get the tapered top to fuse to the cone, but now I can whip up 10 grubs at a pop with a injection syringe and store the bodies.

The mold they sell similar to yours is called the carrot and comes in different sizes. I can't justify $115 since I don't sell many lures and those that I do sell, only locally.

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Re: Anyone pour plastics baits ?
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2017, 08:36:39 AM »
I only have a few bucks in mine.  The catheter injectors are about $2 each at the animal clinic.  The brass tubes I bought in 3' pieces for a couple of bucks each.  While I was at it I cast about 2 dozen plugs and cut off 20 pieces of brass so I have 20 injectable tubes when I go to make them.

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Re: Anyone pour plastics baits ?
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2017, 08:59:39 AM »
Yes sir. I have been pouring my own ever since I bought my first kit from Bass Pro Shops back in the early 80's. Granted, I haven't had a chance to pour since late 2012 when I packed all my gear up and moved north. However, now that I am back in SC I have been unpacking everything and plan on getting back to pouring soon.

I use a lot of store bought baits always BUT I love hand pouring because I can make stuff that you just cant find on the shelves. Sometimes those custom colors are just what the fish want too.

I pour with several different methods. I use a burner and small copper pots to pour baits of more than 2 colors. I use a microwave and Pyrex measuring cups to pour single, double color baits, swirls and "firetails".  I use a Lee Hot Pot to pour larger quantities. I also have an injector and many injector molds. For those I either use the pyrex and the microwave or I use the hot pot. I also have a fry daddy that I bought for even larger quantities while using the injector but havent used it yet.

I need to stir all my plastisol up and see if its any good any longer. 4 years of sitting and its all settled. ugh. HOpe I can mix it and still use it. Would be a lot of money down the drain otherwise.


@SENKOSAM you said
 many lures I make don't require a mold.
Id love to know more about this. (y)

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Re: Anyone pour plastics baits ?
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2017, 09:59:05 AM »
what is needed:
 
straight edge razor blade you can hold while cutting lure shape

plastic heated hot enough to pour and dip shapes

floor tile with glassy finish or other heat resistant glass; (originally I found by accident the same thin layer coating a table spoon)

Method:
1. heat plastic thin enough to pour 
2. pour down a slanted floor tile or dip a metal spoon into plastic
Note: pour a second time over the same thin layer either leavign a tail section thin or over the entire first pour depending on lure action
3. cut the shape you want with the razor

two designs:
 1. leaving the tail section thin, dip the body into a bit cooler plastic - like a candle made the old fashion way - letting it cool a bit before dipping again to thicken the body thereby simulating the tail action and shape of a minnow or

2. allow the entire plastic to be of the same thickness in order to make other shapes but with a thicker tail. (See recent post I wrote about finesse action lures (pictured). Shapes can include finesse rod shapes;  wedge shape with four flat sides coming to a point. 

Any size and shape limited only by the imagination - grubs, trailers, finesse worms, etc.

Once I have the shape and thickness I want, I speed the cooling process by dipping the lure in a cool water bath (lid to a Koolade bottle) and laying them on a cool flat surface. I store all thin tail grubs in a CD case to keep them straight in shape when on the water or in other tackle storage boxes in my basement for large numbers.



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Re: Anyone pour plastics baits ?
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2017, 10:06:43 AM »

Quote
I need to stir all my plastisol up and see if its any good any longer. 4 years of sitting and its all settled. ugh. HOpe I can mix it and still use it. Would be a lot of money down the drain otherwise. 
There are a few plastisol brands I use that don't need much mixing after a long period of sitting in the container. LC isn't one of them !  Plastisol never goes bad if stored with a tight sealing lid. Humidity can make certain plastics foam or bubble a bit at first, but on the second reheat, it goes away.

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Re: Anyone pour plastics baits ?
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2017, 10:10:10 AM »
Jared I have found that making a stirrer out of a clothes hanger and using an electric drill saves a lot of shaking.  I make an L shape with the bottom looping back so it is a double wire.  The bottom of the L needs to be long enough to reach from the middle of the container to the outside edge.

If the harder has settled and become stiff you may have to work from the top down to get it to mix.

5-10 minutes with this method is a lot faster and easier than shaking jugs of plastisol.

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